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		<title><img class='wavatar' src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=defd57382ede5cbff795c406833f5cf8.jpg&amp;s=30&amp;d=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pelopor.nl%2Fwp-content%2Fcache%2Fwavatars%2Fdefd57382ede5cbff.png' width='30' height='30' alt='Wavatar' />By:  colson</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 18:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@tikno: I can&#039;t but agree with you: there will be a lot of opposition against his candidacy. Yet &#039;it ain&#039;t over till it&#039;s over&#039;, which  hopefully will be very soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@tikno: I can&#8217;t but agree with you: there will be a lot of opposition against his candidacy. Yet &#8216;it ain&#8217;t over till it&#8217;s over&#8217;, which  hopefully will be very soon.</p>
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		<title><img class='wavatar' src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=64afd933335032d1cf362cf7a2c2efe6.jpg&amp;s=30&amp;d=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pelopor.nl%2Fwp-content%2Fcache%2Fwavatars%2F64afd933335032d1c.png' width='30' height='30' alt='Wavatar' />By:  tikno</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 17:19:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sure Tommy only have a small chance to lead Golkar, because lately I heard the issue that Golkar will upgrade their party rules (AD/ART). Maybe this movement is to inhibit Tommy. In addition, JK seemed skeptical about Tommy&#039;s leadership abilities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure Tommy only have a small chance to lead Golkar, because lately I heard the issue that Golkar will upgrade their party rules (AD/ART). Maybe this movement is to inhibit Tommy. In addition, JK seemed skeptical about Tommy&#8217;s leadership abilities.</p>
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		<title><img class='wavatar' src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e.jpg&amp;s=30&amp;d=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pelopor.nl%2Fwp-content%2Fcache%2Fwavatars%2Fd41d8cd98f00b204e.png' width='30' height='30' alt='Wavatar' />By:  Indonesia: Soeharto&#8217;s son aims to be president? :: Elites TV</title>
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		<dc:creator><img class='wavatar' src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e.jpg&amp;s=30&amp;d=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pelopor.nl%2Fwp-content%2Fcache%2Fwavatars%2Fd41d8cd98f00b204e.png' width='30' height='30' alt='Wavatar' /> Indonesia: Soeharto&#8217;s son aims to be president? :: Elites TV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 02:00:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Pelopor said that Tommy will hardly succeed in getting what he wants: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Pelopor said that Tommy will hardly succeed in getting what he wants: [...]</p>
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		<title><img class='wavatar' src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e.jpg&amp;s=30&amp;d=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pelopor.nl%2Fwp-content%2Fcache%2Fwavatars%2Fd41d8cd98f00b204e.png' width='30' height='30' alt='Wavatar' />By:  Global Voices Online &#187; Indonesia: Soeharto&#8217;s son aims to be president?</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 00:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Pelopor said that Tommy will hardly succeed in getting what he wants: [...]</description>
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		<title><img class='wavatar' src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=defd57382ede5cbff795c406833f5cf8.jpg&amp;s=30&amp;d=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pelopor.nl%2Fwp-content%2Fcache%2Fwavatars%2Fdefd57382ede5cbff.png' width='30' height='30' alt='Wavatar' />By:  colson</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 07:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ calvin: The risk of Tommy becoming the next leader of Golkar is fortunately very small - but does not equal zero. All over the world public opinion is whimsical and the collective memory weak.

Yet I trust he will not succeed in the present Indonesian context. What is really appalling however is the man&#039;s amazing impudence and shamelessness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ calvin: The risk of Tommy becoming the next leader of Golkar is fortunately very small &#8211; but does not equal zero. All over the world public opinion is whimsical and the collective memory weak.</p>
<p>Yet I trust he will not succeed in the present Indonesian context. What is really appalling however is the man&#8217;s amazing impudence and shamelessness.</p>
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		<title><img class='wavatar' src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=81d8dec5ce195d7e6ddf5e6c605729ae.jpg&amp;s=30&amp;d=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pelopor.nl%2Fwp-content%2Fcache%2Fwavatars%2F81d8dec5ce195d7e6.png' width='30' height='30' alt='Wavatar' />By:  calvin</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 19:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if people accept Tommy, it means Indonesians should be awarded with the &quot;history amnesiac nation award&quot;. I&#039;m speechless even to think the possibility that guy could be accepted to society since he&#039;s the reason of Soeharto&#039;s fall of grace (and our nation as well). this is too pathetic that makes it funny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if people accept Tommy, it means Indonesians should be awarded with the &#8220;history amnesiac nation award&#8221;. I&#8217;m speechless even to think the possibility that guy could be accepted to society since he&#8217;s the reason of Soeharto&#8217;s fall of grace (and our nation as well). this is too pathetic that makes it funny.</p>
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		<title><img class='wavatar' src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=defd57382ede5cbff795c406833f5cf8.jpg&amp;s=30&amp;d=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pelopor.nl%2Fwp-content%2Fcache%2Fwavatars%2Fdefd57382ede5cbff.png' width='30' height='30' alt='Wavatar' />By:  colson</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 07:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ aOzOra: Probably you&#039;re right: he doesn&#039;t stand a chance. But a lot of money and an extensive old boys&#039; network did the trick for Prabowo.He has been - but shouldn&#039;t have been able to - running for vice-president, didn&#039;t he?.

So, we can&#039;t be too sure about the outcome. Fortunately it is a fact though that present day Indonesia is quite different from New Order.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ aOzOra: Probably you&#8217;re right: he doesn&#8217;t stand a chance. But a lot of money and an extensive old boys&#8217; network did the trick for Prabowo.He has been &#8211; but shouldn&#8217;t have been able to &#8211; running for vice-president, didn&#8217;t he?.</p>
<p>So, we can&#8217;t be too sure about the outcome. Fortunately it is a fact though that present day Indonesia is quite different from New Order.</p>
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		<title><img class='wavatar' src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=871e8d86fe2b1e73d03a8d855880e07a.jpg&amp;s=30&amp;d=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pelopor.nl%2Fwp-content%2Fcache%2Fwavatars%2F871e8d86fe2b1e73d.png' width='30' height='30' alt='Wavatar' />By:  a0z0ra</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 19:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wrong timing.  People are still super mad at him, and he hasn&#039;t do anything about that yet.  

Let&#039;s say that if Tommy did a great job at changing his image (donate to charities, do heroic works etc etc), people might (just might!)  consider to accept him.

Right now it&#039;s just appalling.  No common sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wrong timing.  People are still super mad at him, and he hasn&#8217;t do anything about that yet.  </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s say that if Tommy did a great job at changing his image (donate to charities, do heroic works etc etc), people might (just might!)  consider to accept him.</p>
<p>Right now it&#8217;s just appalling.  No common sense.</p>
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